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Post by Allyn on Dec 7, 2008 11:46:02 GMT -5
I was thinking about this question today. I was thinking about how when Jesus, our Holy God, walked in the midst of mankind. He ate with people, He slept in the same place with people. He walked the same dusty roads that people walked. Yet when the rulers of Israel had Jesus, the God of the universe, standing before them and with their perfect opportunity to ask Him any one question they might, what instead did they do with that opportunity? "Why did you heal on the Sabbath?"
What a question. How disgraceful. Yet this is the kind of question they asked the Creator of all things.
So, I put the question to you as well as to me. If you had one minute of Jesus' time and stood face to face with our Lord, what would the one question be that you might ask?
No question would be fully adequate, this I realize, but take some time and think about what you might ask. Then come back here and share that question with us.
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Post by Paul Kelly on Dec 27, 2008 15:03:00 GMT -5
Hi Allyn,
I don't believe that Jesus is God....but I take your point. If I could ask either Jesus or God a question, it'd probably be the same one. Am I doing okay...if not, what do I need to change. Not very imaginative I know, but to me probably the most important question I could ask.
Paul
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Post by Allyn on Dec 27, 2008 16:48:07 GMT -5
Hi Allyn, I don't believe that Jesus is God....but I take your point. If I could ask either Jesus or God a question, it'd probably be the same one. Am I doing okay...if not, what do I need to change. Not very imaginative I know, but to me probably the most important question I could ask. Paul Hi Paul, I certainly do believe and acknowledge that Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6, Rev.1:8 and Rev. 22:13 say exactly that. How can I waver under such weighty evidence? |
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Post by Once4all on Dec 27, 2008 23:04:45 GMT -5
I certainly do believe and acknowledge that Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6, Rev.1:8 and Rev. 22:13 say exactly that. How can I waver under such weighty evidence? Allyn, we can discuss this if you'd like, but we might want to take it to the Trinity thread that was started by Steve. Bev |
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Post by Paul Kelly on Dec 28, 2008 6:43:54 GMT -5
I certainly do believe and acknowledge that Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6, Rev.1:8 and Rev. 22:13 say exactly that. How can I waver under such weighty evidence? Allyn, we can discuss this if you'd like, but we might want to take it to the Trinity thread that was started by Steve. Bev Good idea Bev  |
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Post by Allyn on Dec 28, 2008 7:22:51 GMT -5
I certainly do believe and acknowledge that Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6, Rev.1:8 and Rev. 22:13 say exactly that. How can I waver under such weighty evidence? Allyn, we can discuss this if you'd like, but we might want to take it to the Trinity thread that was started by Steve. Bev Here's my position on starting a thread on the subject whether Jesus is God or not - I don't want to do it because I feel I may be committing a blaspheme against God if I do. Just to question it is dangerous, in my opinion. If Paul or someone want to start the thread, well, I have no objection. I will defend my position in that thread (in a loving respectful way), but I won't start the thread.  |
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Post by phil on Dec 28, 2008 13:33:55 GMT -5
The only blaspheme not forgivable is against the holy spirit....
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal d**nation:
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1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
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Post by Paul Kelly on Dec 28, 2008 14:54:29 GMT -5
Allyn, we can discuss this if you'd like, but we might want to take it to the Trinity thread that was started by Steve. Bev Here's my position on starting a thread on the subject whether Jesus is God or not - I don't want to do it because I feel I may be committing a blaspheme against God if I do. Just to question it is dangerous, in my opinion. If Paul or someone want to start the thread, well, I have no objection. I will defend my position in that thread (in a loving respectful way), but I won't start the thread. Hi Allyn, Not a problem. I respect your right to not start a thread and your reasons for not doing so. I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable. I didn't actually mean to bring it up in this thread. It's just your question was worded in such a way that some of us here couldn't answer it without clarifying our positions first. Anyway, apologies for derailing the discussion. Paul |
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Post by Allyn on Dec 28, 2008 15:37:13 GMT -5
Here's my position on starting a thread on the subject whether Jesus is God or not - I don't want to do it because I feel I may be committing a blaspheme against God if I do. Just to question it is dangerous, in my opinion. If Paul or someone want to start the thread, well, I have no objection. I will defend my position in that thread (in a loving respectful way), but I won't start the thread. Hi Allyn, Not a problem. I respect your right to not start a thread and your reasons for not doing so. I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable. I didn't actually mean to bring it up in this thread. It's just your question was worded in such a way that some of us here couldn't answer it without clarifying our positions first. Anyway, apologies for derailing the discussion. Paul No problem, Paul. I wasn't uncomfortable. There are some beliefs I have that I am totally convicted of and I know em when I see em. I'm ready for a challenge though, so if you want to discuss why you think that of Jesus then please do start a thread. |
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Post by mtymousie on Dec 29, 2008 0:33:48 GMT -5
John 10:30: "I and My Father are one."
John 20:27-29: "Then saith He to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold My hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into My side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."
Rev.22:3: "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and His servants shall serve Him:"
Isaiah 55:9: "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts."
One question I will ask Him when I see Him will be to please explain the mystery of the Godhead to me. I DO know that I firmly FEAR Him enough that there is NO way that anyone will ever convince me to deny His deity.
preteristmouse
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Post by Paul Kelly on Dec 29, 2008 6:38:13 GMT -5
Hi Allyn,
Tell you what, to make this as non-confrontational as possible. I'll start a new thread discussing some of the scriptures you brought up. We can discuss them individually, and decide whether any of them prove conclusively that Jesus is God. Then if the answer turns out to be no, it doesn't effect your faith at all...since you presumably have other scriptures you'd use.
In that way then no one's having to defend themselves....we're just weighing up the merits of each scripture individually.
It's actually a bit of an emotive subject....reading your posts and mytmousie's latest offering I can see that, and I don't want to upset anyone, nor put anyone on the defensive.
But discussing the scriptures individually (and in small chunks as I have a limited amount of time this next few months), maybe we could progress in a reasonably manner.
Let me know if this is agreeable and I'll post something about Revelation 1:8. And if Bev wants to chip in with any of her thoughts, that would be cool too.
Paul
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Post by Allyn on Dec 29, 2008 6:58:31 GMT -5
I'll agree to that, Paul.
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