The Ten Commandments

[stephenpatrick]

Someone help me out here.
The Ten Commandments. What application do the 10 Commandments hold for the Christian today? Mellontes made a comment on the "other" board recently saying that "futurists believe the ten commandments, plus over 600 other commands are still in effect because the heaven and the earth haven't passed away" (forgive me if I didn't state that exactly right). While I do understand and believe that we are in the new heavens and earth, whenever I have opportunity to present the gospel to someone I always use the ten commandments in order to show how man has sinned against God and fallen short in his life and is in need of the forgiveness of his sins through faith in Jesus Christ. I find no other way to show how we have all failed on this account. Please someone explain to me, in detail if possible, what I think I know but just don't have the verses or words. Did that make sense?

Thanks.
Steve

[mtymousie]

My take on it:

Consider these two passages: "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." (Rom.13:8-10)

"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing." (1 Cor.13:2)

The kind of love that Christ had for us is ultimately the example of how we are to love others. Paul said that even the most powerful faith is meaningless without it. Indeed, he says that the entire aspect of the law is fulfilled in such love. Ergo, while the law itself was under the Old Covenant, its eternal PRINCIPLES are still alive and well in the love of Christ that we shed abroad in our lives.

JMO,
preteristmouse

[stephenpatrick]

Thank you mtymousie. Very well said.

[Once4all]

Nov 26, 2008 20:58:41 GMT -5 mtymousie said:

... while the law itself was under the Old Covenant, its eternal PRINCIPLES are still alive and well in the love of Christ that we shed abroad in our lives.

JMO,
preteristmouse

I'm in the process of putting together the bulletin for church tomorrow. Each month we have a new memory verse (chosen by the preacher). For May, it is Ephesians 6:1-3. In reading this passage over and over while trying to decide which translation I want to use, something about verse 2 struck me:

Ephesians 6:1-3 ESV
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. (2) "Honor your father and mother" (this is the first commandment with a promise), (3) "that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land."

If the Old Covenant 10 Commandments are valid only in principle, why would Paul refer to a promise that was associated with one of them?

Here, I believe, would be the answer:

2 Corinthians 1:20 ESV
For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory.

[Morris]

Very good point, Bev. If we consider that the law was fulfilled by, and in, Jesus, it follows that all the promises related to that law are also found only in Him.

[Allyn]

For discussion purposes then, what is the promise associated with the command?

[Morris]

May 5, 2013 8:43:05 GMT -5 Allyn said:

For discussion purposes then, what is the promise associated with the command?

I'll start it off then with the 'obvious' answer:

From Exodus 20:12, "that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you".

But of course there is the whole context of what is being said in Ephesians and what it means in the New Testament.