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Post by wandashort on Jul 21, 2011 8:18:46 GMT -5
Ok, same thing here...I could really use some guidance on grasping this -
1. Who/What is/was Satan?
2. Is "Satan" in scripture always refering to a central figure/entity?
3. How are "evil" and "satan" similar/different?
I have more but this is a good place to start. Thanks!
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Post by Once4all on Jul 21, 2011 13:21:28 GMT -5
Ok, same thing here...I could really use some guidance on grasping this - 1. Who/What is/was Satan? 2. Is "Satan" in scripture always refering to a central figure/entity? 3. How are "evil" and "satan" similar/different? I have more but this is a good place to start. Thanks! There's lots of discussion on this in the James 4:7 thread just below here in the same forum. I am currently reading "The Real Devil" by Duncan Heaster. It is available to read online here: www.realdevil.info/It is a real eye-opener. I am gleaning much more from it than I thought I would. To dive right into the meat of it, you can go directly to the following chapters: 2-3 Satan and The Devil - www.realdevil.info/2-3.htm2-4 The Jewish Satan - www.realdevil.info/2-4.htm3-1-1 "To be spiritually minded": The Essence Of Christianity - www.realdevil.info/ (This is the chapter I just finished reading this morning.) |
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Post by wandashort on Jul 21, 2011 15:06:42 GMT -5
Thanks! I will read these tomorrow! I apologize for being absent for so long and then waltzing in and rapid fire posting but this is the only forum i know where I can get a more rounded discussion...plus I miss you guys and gals!!
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Post by Morris on Jul 22, 2011 15:58:10 GMT -5
Why don't you just ask something difficult instead!?  |
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jul 22, 2011 21:42:11 GMT -5
I am more interested in how things that go bump in the night are to be explained, or apparitions, or voices - or you name it (signs and wonders). If there are no beings that might be called devils, then there are no beings that might be called angels either. And we might as well follow the Sadducees who say there is no resurrection, no angels, no spirit.
IMHO,
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Post by Once4all on Jul 23, 2011 16:46:42 GMT -5
I am more interested in how things that go bump in the night are to be explained, or apparitions, or voices - or you name it (signs and wonders). If there are no beings that might be called devils, then there are no beings that might be called angels either. And we might as well follow the Sadducees who say there is no resurrection, no angels, no spirit. IMHO, Robin, I don't understand why you couple angels with devils, as though one can't exist without the other. Can you explain why you make that connection? |
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jul 24, 2011 11:36:31 GMT -5
Hi Bev,
Because I believe the bible makes that same connection. Not only that men could be possessed by devils but that they had power to do signs and wonders by them - Jannes & Jambres, eg. Neither Moses nor they had the power to turn rods into snakes, therefore an external power was being manifested. Until the lice showed up, then we see that the devil is unable to actually create life from dust, and so Moses was confirmed as representing the true God. It is also significant that the signs Moses performed were all against the idols of Egypt. Which idols the people had been exposed to for 400 years. These signs Moses did were more to convince them than they were to prove a thing to Pharoah.
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