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Post by Allyn on Feb 5, 2011 9:43:29 GMT -5
Did this thread title get your attention?  No, I'm still and will always be a full preterist. But what is bugging me is what makes others turn from it? Especially those who have such a scholar-like frame of reference. In particular I am speaking of Sam Frost. Can anyone explain to me what turned Sam from a position he has convincingly wrote several books in favor of? He devoted a whole website to the discovery of preterism and now, what, changes his mind? What's the story? |
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Post by Once4all on Feb 5, 2011 13:45:39 GMT -5
Has he published his reasons anywhere?
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Post by mellontes on Feb 5, 2011 16:40:08 GMT -5
He has only given little snippets of info...nothing formal as yet. His Reformed ideology is driving his paradigm. The Reformed view and preterism (when taken to the fullest extent) do not mix. Sam has gone back to his Reformed roots. And in a dash of philosohpy, a little misinformation about infinity and the elsec, and POOF, you have Sam's new position - whatever that is.
Many post at DeathIsDefeated have been started regardin Sam, and Sam has volunteered some of his thoughts. They are pretty scattered though. Just click Sam's profile and you will have access to many of his comments on the different threads...
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Post by Once4all on Feb 5, 2011 17:17:07 GMT -5
Is Sam's abandonment of preterism a fairly new development?
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Post by Allyn on Feb 5, 2011 18:50:15 GMT -5
Is Sam's abandonment of preterism a fairly new development? I have only been catching some of what others say about him but it must have been gradual thing for him. He had leanings backwards to the future but it wasn't until just recently that he revealed that he had taken the full plunge into the abyss of futurism. |
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Post by kangaroojack on Feb 7, 2011 4:26:38 GMT -5
Mellontrs wrote:
You don't know what you are talking about.
Roo
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Post by JLVaughn on Feb 7, 2011 9:42:34 GMT -5
Mellontrs wrote: You don't know what you are talking about. Roo Ted does know what he is talking about: Sam Frost claims he left Full Preterism because The Reformed view and Full Preterism do not mix. You have this nasty habit of ignoring the context of a person's comments and making him say something he didn't say. Ted made no comment as to whether he thought Reformed and FP were compatible. He was only giving Sam's reason. It is Sam who believes Reformed and FP are incompatible. It is Sam who gave this reason for quitting FP. |
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Post by mellontes on Feb 7, 2011 9:57:42 GMT -5
Actually, Ted does believe that Reformed (when taken to its fullest extent) and FP do not mix.
Roo, do you believe that when an unregnerate person dies they spend all of eternity in the lake of fire?
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Post by sonofdavid on Feb 7, 2011 20:15:16 GMT -5
Actually, Ted does believe that Reformed (when taken to its fullest extent) and FP do not mix. Roo, do you believe that when an unregnerate person dies they spend all of eternity in the lake of fire? Why doesn't Reformed Theology and Full Preterism mix? If that is beyond the scope this thread, maybe you can start a new one with that explanation. soD  |
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Post by mellontes on Feb 7, 2011 21:07:02 GMT -5
Actually, Ted does believe that Reformed (when taken to its fullest extent) and FP do not mix. Roo, do you believe that when an unregnerate person dies they spend all of eternity in the lake of fire? Why doesn't Reformed Theology and Full Preterism mix? If that is beyond the scope this thread, maybe you can start a new one with that explanation. soD Let's wait for Roo to answer my question before proceeding further... |
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Post by schultzinator on Sept 17, 2011 19:32:30 GMT -5
I believe Allyn wrote on the subject. I have been looking for it recently.
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Post by Allyn on Sept 19, 2011 12:21:04 GMT -5
I believe Allyn wrote on the subject. I have been looking for it recently. I sent you a PM  |
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Post by MoGrace2U on Sept 20, 2011 21:29:57 GMT -5
I have yet to hear an actual biblically discovered reason from any of them that overturns the full preterism paradigm. The justification they give runs the gamut from holding fast to the WCF to whether or not one can be gainfully employed as a scholar of note if remaining outside the reformed community. Pretty much just the normal worldly things that concern men most.
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