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Post by Allyn on Jan 28, 2011 21:46:38 GMT -5
I was reading through some of Leviticus last night and came to the chapter where God demanded a holy behavior from His high priests because they were set apart as holy representatives of God.
One of the things the High priest was forbidden to do was to tear his clothing. This must have otherwise been a common thing to do. The passage is found in Leviticus 21 and says:
10 ‘He who is the high priest among his brethren, on whose head the anointing oil was poured and who is consecrated to wear the garments, shall not uncover his head nor tear his clothes;
This reminded me of the time of Jesus when He was ordered to answer under oath whether He was the Son of God. When Jesus answered to the affirmative the High preist tore his clothes which was absolutely forbidden. Matthew 26:62-65
I just found this so revealing as to how far the priesthood had fallen from their holiness.
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Post by mellontes on Jan 28, 2011 21:51:45 GMT -5
Don't be too hard on the high priest, Allyn; he probably found a joint on the floor and got ripped..
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Post by Allyn on Jan 28, 2011 21:58:33 GMT -5
could be
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Post by Once4all on Jan 28, 2011 22:20:23 GMT -5
Don't be too hard on the high priest, Allyn; he probably found a joint on the floor and got ripped.. got ripped ... tore his clothes ... Are you trying to make a pun, Ted?  |
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Post by Once4all on Jan 28, 2011 22:30:46 GMT -5
Tearing your robe, like pouring dust or ashes on your head, was a sign of grief. The priests' garments were holy, as were the priests themselves, so I imagine that performing these signs of grief would be a desecration to that which is holy. Allyn wrote: I just found this so revealing as to how far the priesthood had fallen from their holiness.
Read more: livebytr.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=any&thread=780&page=1#ixzz1COKkfjFDSo true. Good find! |
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Post by Morris on Jan 31, 2011 14:27:46 GMT -5
Tearing your robe, like pouring dust or ashes on your head, was a sign of grief. The priests' garments were holy, as were the priests themselves, so I imagine that performing these signs of grief would be a desecration to that which is holy. I wonder if this is a picture of Revelation 21:4. There should be no true sorrow when clothed with robes of righteousness. [Still here and following as much as I can but time is at a premium at the moment.] |
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Post by Once4all on Jan 31, 2011 14:37:00 GMT -5
Tearing your robe, like pouring dust or ashes on your head, was a sign of grief. The priests' garments were holy, as were the priests themselves, so I imagine that performing these signs of grief would be a desecration to that which is holy. I wonder if this is a picture of Revelation 21:4. There should be no true sorrow when clothed with robes of righteousness. Very interesting thought! [Still here and following as much as I can but time is at a premium at the moment.] The boards have been quiet the past few days. |
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Post by Allyn on Jan 31, 2011 16:56:09 GMT -5
Tearing your robe, like pouring dust or ashes on your head, was a sign of grief. The priests' garments were holy, as were the priests themselves, so I imagine that performing these signs of grief would be a desecration to that which is holy. I wonder if this is a picture of Revelation 21:4. There should be no true sorrow when clothed with robes of righteousness. [Still here and following as much as I can but time is at a premium at the moment.] That is quite interesting. Clothing plays a highly symbolic part to salvation. The High Priest ultimatel through Christ represented this holiness partly symbolized in the clothing the priest wore. Good thoughts. |
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Post by Morris on Feb 1, 2011 11:09:26 GMT -5
That is quite interesting. Clothing plays a highly symbolic part to salvation. The High Priest ultimatel through Christ represented this holiness partly symbolized in the clothing the priest wore. Good thoughts. Said with much more explanation than I did. I guess it still made sense if people gathered what I was talking about. (I don't like posting when tight on time yet I seem to do it anyway.  ) Why should we ever "rent" our garments when we are clothed with Christ, the righteousness of God? 2 Corinthians 6:9,10 " as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things". |
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Post by Josiah on Apr 15, 2017 9:46:05 GMT -5
Very interesting, I too was reading this morning and was wondering in my heart. Here is the High priest at the time ,(Caiaphas) Who was a shadow of the true High priest, Jesus. So yo have the shadow talking to the substance. Jesus was said to come at a time when the law was being followed so closely , a time of ultimate self pride and works. The Jews were so obsessed with the law and keeping its commands. Caiaphas, must have believed so much in His own righteousness as High priest and so blinded by his zealous legalism that he thought it on to actually tear his high priestly garments. He was so arrogant in His pride and misdirected zeal for God that he actually stood in front of God Himself, the true substance, the true High priest and tore His robes!! Oh the blindness of mans arrogance!
We think we are so Holy we think we are so good, yet with out Gods very own righteousness, we are so pathetic.
I can only trust that this tearing of the robes represented Jesus Himself becoming sin , so that, we could become the righteousness of God.( 2 Corinthians 5:21).
The same God in revelations 4 where the four living creatures cry day and night with out rest, "Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty Who Was and Is and Is to come" as the 24 elders cast there crowns with out rest before the One who sits in the throne saying: "You are worthy, O Lord to receive glory and honour and power; for You created all things , and by Your will they exist and were created"
This same One , after the high priest tore His robes, was then spit apon and slapped and mocked.
The one who at the same time was being worshiped in Heaven with out ceasing. Went through the suffering He went through. Because of HIS Love
Who can speak about such thoughts.
Praise Jesus forever
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Post by Miguel Ramirez on Aug 10, 2017 12:02:37 GMT -5
I also had come across the scripture in Mark when the High Priest had torn his robe but had also remembered the scripture in Leviticus that had mentioned the High Priest was forbidden to tear his clothes. Many commentators I read protected the High Priest. But the word of God is true and what is written cannot be changed. It said what it said.
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Post by Betsy on Nov 11, 2017 11:55:43 GMT -5
My husband and I, too, recently thought of the High Priest not being allowed, by Law, to tear his garments; yet he did just that when appalled by Jesus' response.
Then we remembered that the soldiers had cast lots for Jesus' garment rather than tear it! Symbolically, this 'tearing of the High Priest's garment' could be telling us that at the time of Jesus' Crucifixion, He replaced the physical High Priest and He, Himself, whose garment was not torn, took on the role of our true High Priest in heaven!
Jn. 19: 23 When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they divided His garments into four parts, one for each soldier, with the tunic remaining. It was seamless, woven in one piece from the top to bottom. 24 So they said to one another, “Let’s not tear it, but instead let us cast lots to see who will get it.”
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Post by Rlee on Jun 19, 2018 12:42:19 GMT -5
That is quite interesting. Clothing plays a highly symbolic part to salvation. The High Priest ultimatel through Christ represented this holiness partly symbolized in the clothing the priest wore. Good thoughts. Said with much more explanation than I did. I guess it still made sense if people gathered what I was talking about. (I don't like posting when tight on time yet I seem to do it anyway. ) Why should we ever "rent" our garments when we are clothed with Christ, the righteousness of God? 2 Corinthians 6:9,10 " as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things". |
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Post by RLee on Jun 19, 2018 12:50:31 GMT -5
Gentlemen , as the High Priest ripped his cloths he could not offer the sacrifice for the people as he was sinful in his act ! Jesus did not just happen on the scene but was perfectly placed just in time to offer His life as the perfect lamb of God on our behalf.. Jesus our Great High Priest offered His life instead of an animal ! Dick reubens the pattern for revival series is a great study on this fact ... blessings on and all ! Rlee
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Post by Rlee on Jun 19, 2018 12:53:23 GMT -5
Said with much more explanation than I did. I guess it still made sense if people gathered what I was talking about. (I don't like posting when tight on time yet I seem to do it anyway. ) Why should we ever "rent" our garments when we are clothed with Christ, the righteousness of God? 2 Corinthians 6:9,10 " as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things". |
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Post by Rlee on Jun 19, 2018 13:01:16 GMT -5
as they ripped His garment Jesus and they were fulfilling Prophecy Jesus knowingly but they unknowingly.. I love it when the enemy oversteps and although a formidable foe he has been defeated by God always keeping His Word!! What comfort we have in Knowing our Father gives us even when we are in the trial or in the suffering season. Blessings friends
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Post by Julian on Jun 25, 2019 16:04:34 GMT -5
I was studying Mat. 26, and came across your discussion here. I found it rather interesting, and thought to share what I saw in this scenario. Lev. 21:10 Commands that the high priest is not to rend his clothes. Being a picture, and a type of Christ the high priest was to maintain very specific and a holy behavior. This act by Caiaphas here seems symbolic, though he himself was unaware of what he was actually doing. But this rending of his clothes goes parallel with the rending of the veil in the temple, Mat. 27:51, performed by God, and symbolizing the end of the Old Testament sacrificial system. And Caiaphas, by rending his clothes symbolizes the end of the Levitical priesthood. By this act he unknowingly proclaimed that his position as a priest is finished, and that office made null and void. In the same thought, Mat. 27:35, Luke 23:34, John 19:24 Christ’s garments were not rent, but lots were cast for them as for something of great value. So the high priest after the order of Levi rends his clothes signifying the ending of that office, and Christ, the Great High Priest after the order of Melchisedec Heb. 5:6, takes the office as a better, and perpetual High Priest. Hallelujah! What a Savior!
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Post by M L Matthews on Aug 24, 2020 13:11:59 GMT -5
When Caiaphas tore his robe in front of Jesus, I see a public display of the end of the old priesthood and the beginning of the new priesthood in Jesus. Jesus our eternal and forever high priest. The priesthood after the order of Melchizedek.
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Post by Dawn on Oct 15, 2020 9:09:45 GMT -5
I came here after reading Ezra 9 where Ezra had torn his clothing in grief at the sin of the people. Was that a right thing for him to do? Did he commit a sin in the way he showed sadness and anger about sin?
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Post by Sam on Jan 17, 2022 7:57:05 GMT -5
There is a lot to this. Let me quote from John Gill's Exposition of the Bible. He has rabbinical sources listed in his footnotes:
Then the high priest rent his clothes,.... Both his outer and inner garments. This he did, to show his zeal for the honour and glory of God, his grief and concern at the profanation of his holy name by a false oath, and his abhorrence of, and indignation at the blasphemy he supposed Christ to be guilty of, in asserting himself to be the Son of God. Some have thought, that Caiaphas in this action, transgressed the law, in Le 21:10, where it is said, that "the high priest--shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes": and it is one of the Jews' negative precepts {i}, that
"an high priest is prohibited, לעולם, "ever" to rend his garments:''
and that therefore being transported with passion at the greatness of the supposed crime, could not forbear expressing his detestation of it in this manner, though it was forbidden him: but it does not appear to have been unlawful: as for the law in Leviticus, it only regards the rending of garments at funerals, or in mourning for the dead, as the context shows; and so Jonathan ben Uzziel paraphrases the text, "nor rent his clothes": בשעת אניקי "in the time of mourning"; and so the Jewish {k} interpreters, in general, expound it; and besides, this prohibition, according to them, only regards the manner of rending: their rule is this {l};
"an high priest rends below, and a common person above:''
the sense of which, according to their commentators, is {m},
"that if anyone dies for whom an high priest is obliged to rend his garments, he must rend below, at the extreme part of his garment, near his feet; and as for what is written, nor rend his clothes; the meaning is, he shall not rend as other men do, above, over against the breast, near the shoulder, as the rest of the people.''
Moreover, a priest might not go into the sanctuary, nor perform any part of service with his clothes rent; the canon runs thus {n},
"the judgment, or the law of them that rend their garment, and of those that uncover the head, is one and the same, as it is said, Le 10:6, lo! if he is in service, and rends his garments, he is guilty of death by the hands of heaven, though his service is right, and not profaned.''
And indeed no man, whether a priest or an Israelite, might go into the temple with his clothes rent; and a priest might not rend his sacerdotal garments, on any account; yet such were not these that Caiaphas now had on; but in case of hearing blasphemy, everyone, be he what he would, was obliged to rend his garments {o}:
"Whosoever hears the cursing of the name (of God) is obliged to rend, even at the cursing of the surnames he is obliged to rend; and he that hears it from an Israelite, both he that hears, and he that hears from the mouth of him that hears, he is obliged to rend; but he that hears from the mouth of a Gentile, is not obliged to rend; and Eliakim and Shebna would not have rent, but because Rabshakeh was an apostate.''
So when witnesses expressed the blasphemy of such they testified against, the judges were obliged to rise up and rend their garments; concerning which, take the following rule {p}:
"a blasphemer is not guilty, unless he expresses the name (of God); says R. Joshua ben Korcha, all the day the witnesses are examined by the surnames; but when the cause is finished, they do not put to death because of the surnames, but they bring every man out, and ask the chief among them, and say to him, say expressly what thou hast heard, and he says it: then the judges stand upon their feet, וקורעין, "and rend their garments", and do not sow them up again; and then the second and the third say, I have heard the same as he.''
From all which it appears, that Caiaphas did what was the custom of the nation to do in such a case. The observation, that some learned men have made, that the high priest's rending his garments, was, though without his intention, an emblem and presage, of the rending of the priesthood from him, and his brethren, and the entire change of it; as the abolition of the whole ceremonial law, was signified by the rending of the vail of the temple in twain; and as the removing of the kingdom from Saul, was represented by Samuel's rending his mantle; and the revolt of the ten tribes to Jeroboam, by Abijah's rending his garment into twelve pieces, and giving ten to him; would have had a much better foundation to be built on, were these clothes that Caiaphas rent, his priestly ones: but such they were not; for both the high priest, and the other priests, only wore their sacerdotal garments in the temple; nor was it lawful for them to go out in them elsewhere; for so the Jews say {q};
"it is forbidden to go out into the province; city, or country, in the garments of the priesthood; but in the sanctuary, whether in the time of service, or not in the time of service, it was lawful.''
In the temple, there were chests on purpose for the garments of the priests {r}; from whence they took them, and where they laid them up when they had performed their service: of these there were ninety six in number; for as there were twenty four courses, there were four chests for every course; in which the garments were put by themselves, the breeches by themselves, the girdles by themselves, the bonnets by themselves, and the coats by themselves; sealed up with an inscription on them, showing what was in them: and when the men that belonged to such a course, came to perform their service in turn, they opened these chests, and clothed themselves: and when they went out of their service, they put them up in them again, and sealed them; and as for
"the high priest, he left his golden garments, בלשכה שלו, "in his chamber", (an apartment in the temple, peculiar to him, and for this use,) in the night, and at whatsoever time he went out of the sanctuary {s}''
Nor might he go abroad with them, unless לצורך גדול, "in great necessity" {t}; as Simeon the Just went out in priestly garments to meet Alexander the Great, to appease him, being warned of God so to do: hence the Apostle Paul knew not Ananias the high priest,
Ac 23:5, which he must have done, had he had on his priestly garments: for when the priests were not in the temple, and out of service, they wore no distinguishing habits, but were dressed as laics, and as the common people were {u}. The reason of Caiaphas's rending his clothes, is expressed in, the next clause,
saying, he hath spoken blasphemy: not only because Jesus asserted that he was the Messiah, but also the Son of God; hereby making himself equal with God, which is the sense in which the Jews always understood this phrase; and he appearing to them to be but a mere man, they charged it as blasphemy against God, to assume such a character and relation to himself:
what further need have we of witnesses? of seeking after others, as they had done: or of further examining and taking the depositions of those, who were before them: he was for putting a stop to the process, and bringing the cause at once to an issue: and therefore addresses the court in the following manner;
behold now, ye have heard his blasphemy: out of his own mouth, as
Lu 22:71, expresses it; and with their own ears, and at that very time; so that they had no need of recourse to things past, or examine witnesses about what they had heard from him formerly: and therefore he proposes, that they would attend to, and take notice of his present words; and which, as he suggests, were shocking and astonishing: for the word, "behold!" may not only be a note of attention, but of astonishment.
{i} Moses Kotsensis Mitzvot Tora, pr. neg. 302. {k} Jarchi, Aben Ezra, &c. in loc. {l} Misn. Horayot, c. 3. sect. 5. {m} Bartenora & Maimon. in ib. {n} Maimon. Hilch. Biath Hamikdash, c. 1. sect. 14, 17. {o} Maimon. Hilch. Obede Cochabim, c. 2. sect. 10. Vid. T. Hieros. Sanhedrin, fol. 25. 1. {p} Misn. Sanhedrin, c. 7. sect. 5. {q} T. Bab. Yoma, fol. 69. 1. & Tamid, fol. 27. 2. {r} Misn. Tamid, c. 5. sect. 3. {s} Maimon. Hilch. Cele Hamikdash, c. 8. sect. 8, 9, 10. {t} Moses Kotsensis Mitzvot Tora, pt. affirm. 173. {u} Maimon. ib. c. 10. sect. 4. Joseph. de Bello Jud. l. 6. c. 15.
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Post by LisaBee on Feb 23, 2022 15:52:19 GMT -5
Has anyone considered, that when the High Priest tore his clothes, right in front of Yeshua/Jesus that at that moment, the Levitical High Priest office was
"disqualified". AND this act ushered in the restored Melchizidek priesthood?
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Post by lynnmn on Jul 12, 2022 5:48:18 GMT -5
It is interesting in contrast that they cast lots for Jesus's clothes - our only high priest
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Post by Asterix on Jul 31, 2023 18:26:07 GMT -5
A Vision of Yehsheh the High Priest - Zec 3:1-5
And He made me see Yehshueh the High Priest standing before the Messenger of Yehueh,
and the Adversary (Satan) standing at his right hand to accuse him.
And Yehueh said to Satan, Yehueh rebuke you, Satan!
And, Yehueh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked out of the fire?
And Yehshueh was clothed with filthy garments, and he stood before the Messenger of Yehueh.
And He answered and spoke to those who stood before Him, saying,
Take away the filthy garments from him.
And He said to him, Behold, I have caused your iniquity to pass from you,
and I will clothe you with ceremonial robes.
And I said, Let them set a clean turban on his head.
AND THEY SET A CLEAN TURBAN ON HIS HEAD AND CLOTHED HIM WITH CLOTHING.
And the Messenger of Yehueh stood by.
To the Church in Laodicea - Rev 3:14-22
And to the messenger of the congregation of Laodicea, write: These things says the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Head of the creation of Yehueh:
I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I would that you were cold, or hot.
So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I am about to vomit you out of My mouth.
Because you say, I am rich, and I am made rich, and I have need of nothing, and do not know that you are miserable and a wanderer and poor and blind and naked.
I advise you to buy from Me gold having been fired by fire, that you may be rich;
AND WHITE GARMENTS, THAT YOU MAY BE CLOTHED, and your shame and nakedness may not be revealed.
And anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
"I, as many as I love, I rebuke and I chasten." Be zealous, then, and repent. (Prov. 3:12)
Behold, I stand at the door "and knock:" If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will enter to him, and I will dine with him, and he with Me. (Song 5:2)
The one overcoming, I will give to him to sit with Me in My throne, as I also overcame and sat with My Father in His throne.
The one who has an ear, hear what the Ruach haQodesh says to the assemblies.
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Post by Karin on Sept 18, 2023 14:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by Karin on Sept 18, 2023 15:03:51 GMT -5
I was just reading that Every year the HIGH PRIEST represented ALL the nation. If the Hi Priest was acceptable than the whole nation was acceptable & blessed for the year. If the high priest was not acceptable then the whole nation was not accpted & blessed.
Well Ciaphas being the High Priest ripped his garment which waS not acceptable so the WHOLE NATION is not acceptable. ( OF corse bc Jesus is only one)
Now since Jesus is high priest forever & all he did what was acceptable so all who are
"in him" are accepted & blessed forever bc he is a forever high priest.
Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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Post by Edward on Apr 25, 2024 17:29:16 GMT -5
I was reading through some of Leviticus last night and came to the chapter where God demanded a holy behavior from His high priests because they were set apart as holy representatives of God. One of the things the High priest was forbidden to do was to tear his clothing. This must have otherwise been a common thing to do. The passage is found in Leviticus 21 and says: 10 ‘He who is the high priest among his brethren, on whose head the anointing oil was poured and who is consecrated to wear the garments, shall not uncover his head nor tear his clothes; This reminded me of the time of Jesus when He was ordered to answer under oath whether He was the Son of God. When Jesus answered to the affirmative the High preist tore his clothes which was absolutely forbidden. Matthew 26:62-65 I just found this so revealing as to how far the priesthood had fallen from their holiness. |
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