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Post by didymus on Jan 20, 2011 5:54:02 GMT -5
There are so many topics being discussed. Topics I rarely considered. So, I have a question. What is important for us to know? I will admit that when I was younger, I wanted to know everything. Now, at 54, I realize that I am never going to know everything. If I knew everything, I would be God. Be assured, I am not God. Aren't you lucky? Anyway, besides knowing I will never know everything, I also don't remember everything. Not even things I thought I knew when I was younger. So, insted of knowing everything, it's more important to know what is important to know. There is just so much a human brain can contain, especially when you get older. It would be nice to be able to clear the mind of none essentials, like trying to understand women. That seemed to be one of the most important things to know when I was younger. At my age, it doesn't much matter any more. Now that I know that I will never know everything, I need to know what is important to know, you know. Considering what in the Bible is important to know, I know this; that I am a sinner, and that Christ died for sinners like me, and that I accept by faith. Beyond that, what is important to know? Certainly, it's important to know how people for whom Christ died should act or behave. Is there a proper behavior for those whom Christ died for? I believe so. We are told that we are to love one another, and we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. These are things that are most important to know. But, it seems to me, there are too few that know this, including me. What does it mean to love one another? Perhaps we can discuss that in another thread. Many of us here believe that the coming of Christ, the parousia, happened in 70ad. But, do we know how that happened? And, does it matter how that happened? I don't know how, but I accept by faith that it did happen. Is it important to understand everything right down to the last Greek sylabble? Is it important to know where the puncuation belongs? So what is important to know?
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Post by mellontes on Jan 20, 2011 8:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by didymus on Jan 20, 2011 14:13:10 GMT -5
Trying to get brownie points from the administrator, eh. It won't work, he can't be bought. In case you haven't noticed, but the point of the OP is what is important in the Bible to know.
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Post by Morris on Jan 20, 2011 15:02:30 GMT -5
In case you haven't noticed, but the point of the OP is what is important in the Bible to know. I'd say that all of it is important and profitable but the knowledge is not required.
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Post by mellontes on Jan 20, 2011 15:44:05 GMT -5
In case you haven't noticed, but the point of the OP is what is important in the Bible to know. I'd say that all of it is important and profitable but the knowledge is not required. Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. If God saw it fit for it not to be important, I'm pretty sure He would have left it out. It wasn't important enough for us to know the content of all those books that could have been filled, but just that the books could have been filled (John 21:25) A lot of difficulty could have been averted if the true understanding of Adam's sin was considered important enough to REALLY look at it. But no, they looked up "die" in one of their contemporary dictionaries and discovered that it must be physical death and look what happened!
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Post by Morris on Jan 20, 2011 15:53:41 GMT -5
But no, they looked up "die" in one of their contemporary dictionaries and discovered that it must be physical death and look what happened! Actually, that reminds me. I've been meaning to ask if anybody knows where we get the notion that death means separation from God.
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Post by didymus on Jan 20, 2011 15:58:50 GMT -5
I'd say that all of it is important and profitable but the knowledge is not required. Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. If God saw it fit for it not to be important, I'm pretty sure He would have left it out. It wasn't important enough for us to know the content of all those books that could have been filled, but just that the books could have been filled (John 21:25) A lot of difficulty could have been averted if the true understanding of Adam's sin was considered important enough to REALLY look at it. But no, they looked up "die" in one of their contemporary dictionaries and discovered that it must be physical death and look what happened! Do you know anyone that has perfect knowledge of Genesis 1.1 - Revelation 22.21?
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Post by mellontes on Jan 20, 2011 16:13:47 GMT -5
Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. If God saw it fit for it not to be important, I'm pretty sure He would have left it out. It wasn't important enough for us to know the content of all those books that could have been filled, but just that the books could have been filled (John 21:25) A lot of difficulty could have been averted if the true understanding of Adam's sin was considered important enough to REALLY look at it. But no, they looked up "die" in one of their contemporary dictionaries and discovered that it must be physical death and look what happened! Do you know anyone that has perfect knowledge of Genesis 1.1 - Revelation 22.21? As a matter of fact, I do.
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Post by didymus on Jan 20, 2011 16:19:26 GMT -5
Do you know anyone that has perfect knowledge of Genesis 1.1 - Revelation 22.21? As a matter of fact, I do. Besides Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit and Satan.
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Post by mellontes on Jan 20, 2011 17:13:57 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, I do. Besides Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit and Satan. I hardly think that satan had perfect knowldege of it all...anyone agree with me on this?
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Post by didymus on Jan 20, 2011 23:47:32 GMT -5
Besides Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit and Satan. I hardly think that satan had perfect knowldege of it all...anyone agree with me on this? Satan certainly has better knowledge of Scripture than any of us do. You said that you know someone that had perfect knowledge of Scripture. Who?
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Post by Once4all on Jan 21, 2011 2:41:04 GMT -5
I hardly think that satan had perfect knowldege of it all...anyone agree with me on this? Satan certainly has better knowledge of Scripture than any of us do. You said that you know someone that had perfect knowledge of Scripture. Who? I think he had Jesus in mind. Let's not get carried away.
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Post by didymus on Jan 21, 2011 12:25:01 GMT -5
Satan certainly has better knowledge of Scripture than any of us do. You said that you know someone that had perfect knowledge of Scripture. Who? I think he had Jesus in mind. Let's not get carried away. Then why can't he just say that? Sorry, but that kind of thing frustrates me.
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Post by mellontes on Jan 21, 2011 15:16:27 GMT -5
To whom it may concern:
When anyone says, in relation to having PERFECT knowledge of the Scriptures, that Besides Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit and Satan are "entities" (don't bug me about that right now) that qualify, then you can be sure that I will speak up.
And should it ever get "glossed over" with a statement that one of those qualifying entities certainly had "better knowledge of Scripture than any of us do," I would have to question the intent of the individual saying such things. The issue was not "better" knowledge; the issue was "perfect" knowledge.
Try staying on topic for a change...
And I see that you are the only one who is allowed to introduce humour into your posts. When someone else does it you get all bent out of shape. So, since you are officially ignoring a brother (Jeff), I am going to ignore you until you can grow up. You are rude and inconsiderate. It is no wonder few wish to interact with you unless they are willing bring lots of extra egg shells to replace the ones that get crushed or accidentally moved out of place...
P.S. - I hardly think satan is who you think he is. You probably think he is lucifer...
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Post by Once4all on Jan 21, 2011 15:59:25 GMT -5
Sometimes personalities just don't mesh well. It happens. It happened to me recently. I thought it was someone I could develop a friendship with, but after the third or fourth misunderstanding, it became apparent that the best solution was to back away, to let it go. I still interact with the person (it was on Facebook and we are still Facebook friends), but only superficially now. I no longer attempt to develop a personal connection like I was trying to before. It just wasn't working.
Maybe there's something in my experience that can apply here, maybe not. I just wanted to put it out there as an illustration.
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