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Post by Allyn on Jan 15, 2011 10:15:37 GMT -5
It is rumored that the Euro and the Dollar are going to completely collapse this year (2011) and that by mid-summer a world currency through the development by the G20. It is said that the oil markets will be the first to trade in this new currency and that before this happens a 50% to 70% devaluation of the Dollar will first happen.
Time will certainly tell if these things are true but my question to you all is how in your eyes does this affect the way a preterist lives? Futurists will run and panic and say "see I told you this was what prophecy was telling us", but since we know these things are not Biblically prophetic how do we calm the waters in our immediate circle if there is a way to do this?
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Post by Allyn on Jan 15, 2011 10:53:54 GMT -5
Part of the reason for this thread is to see what you all may think concerning what some have said they have heard directly from God in a vision or dream. Does God speak to men today? Does God give warnings concerning His people in our contemporary time? If so then what is it we as people of God should do in reaction or preperation to days God has warned about? Or should we do anything at all?
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Post by mellontes on Jan 15, 2011 15:07:01 GMT -5
Well, this preterist would like to take advantage of the panic, economically speaking. There are highs and lows. We just had low period in the markets in March of 2009. Economically speaking a lot of moola could be made. If we had the guts. many of us could have retired.
Now that may sound harsh and overly capitalistic, but if we could just free ourselves from our present work-related bondages (that is, if it is not our true love hobby) we could devote ourselves to things of much higher importance.
Ask yourself what you would like to do when you retire and start doing it now...by the way, most analysts are positive on CAnadian banks, since we are the ones buying your banks at bargain basement prices...
It would be an excellent time to write and broadcast that the end is not near; it is finished. No visions or dreams today unless you are Gatekeeper...
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Post by Allyn on Jan 15, 2011 15:58:46 GMT -5
Yes, the message should continue. But in the economical sense we would be in the same financial boat as everyone and so if these predictions come true then what would a prudent preterist do or better still what preperations should be done before such a collapse?
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Post by mellontes on Jan 15, 2011 19:19:21 GMT -5
Yes, the message should continue. But in the economical sense we would be in the same financial boat as everyone and so if these predictions come true then what would a prudent preterist do or better still what preperations should be done before such a collapse? Since one cannot predict a collapse not the timing of it, one can only watch until it begins to happen, then starting shorting stocks like crazy. Gold has already doubled in price in about one year, so who really knows... |
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Post by Michael J Loomis on Jan 15, 2011 20:27:44 GMT -5
Sell everything that you can right now. Quit making all of your obligations and buy as much gold as you can. Then when the "Bank of the Beast," rolls out it's new currency...Get back about your business...  Hey...I wonder if they will reset every individuals credit scores? Heck...I dunno. Maybe I should ask Al Persohn. |
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Post by Allyn on Jan 15, 2011 21:40:59 GMT -5
Sell everything that you can right now. Quit making all of your obligations and buy as much gold as you can. Then when the "Bank of the Beast," rolls out it's new currency...Get back about your business... Hey...I wonder if they will reset every individuals credit scores? Heck...I dunno. Maybe I should ask Al Persohn. You been talking to Glenn Beck? |
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Post by stephenpatrick on Jan 15, 2011 23:31:00 GMT -5
Part of the reason for this thread is to see what you all may think concerning what some have said they have heard directly from God in a vision or dream. Does God speak to men today? Does God give warnings concerning His people in our contemporary time? If so then what is it we as people of God should do in reaction or preperation to days God has warned about? Or should we do anything at all? Good evening Allyn and Ted and Mike. I think preterists should continue doing what ever it is we have been doing. Allyn, you should keep making that old house look new again. Ted should write another book since his first one was tops. Mike should keep making AD70.net the best Bible study program in radio today. It really is! And I'll keep doing what I am doing. I've even decided to learn how to play an instrument for the first time, . . . at my age. The economy is changing, probably in a very hard way. Unless we are very well off I don't think there is much anyone can do. Speaking to the Philippians, Paul told them that "I have known both to be abased, and I have known to abound; in everything and in all things I have been initiated, both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to be in want." And then a few verses later he said that "my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus." I've struggled in many things down through the years. Some of those things are out of our control, so this is one area where I'm going to try and trust in God, and watch and enjoy what He's been doing to me, through me, and you guys too. Blessings. Steve |
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Post by Morris on Jan 16, 2011 19:18:21 GMT -5
As a person in the financial sector I would just like to point out how little information the media flows through to the public. What does come through is very selective.
Most signs suggest that the U.S. is in a rather normal recovery. The indicators are lining up with historical trends. Therefore, what we would expect to see happening based on past experiences is basically what we are seeing today. In fact, corporate health is very high right now in the states showing tremendous amounts of cash that is being positioned for deployment.
Europe has different struggles but even there things are not as bleak as the media would like us to believe. There may be shake-ups in the future but not a foundational crumbling.
Lastly, gold is NOT at historically high values. This is different than dollar values. Using inflation-adjusted dollars, gold was worth in the $2500 range back in the '80's. So on the one hand it has plenty of up-side room, it is also not as in demand as much as other hard commodities.
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Post by Allyn on Jan 16, 2011 20:01:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the replys in this thread. My information came with much skepticism but I wanted to get some views on how we ought to be if there were to ever be an event like the one I spoke of. The information came from an email link to a prophecy type of radio show which to me once again shows the absolute futility in thinking futuristism have with regard to not only prophecy but also visions and dreams. This is not to say all futurist think the way this show was thinking.
When the time comes and goes that they have given as to when these events are to take place it will probably go unnoticed as another false report and the next one will follow on its heels.
Here is the link to the broadcast in case you want to bother with it.
!http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_14_11_friday_trunews2.mp3
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Post by didymus on Jan 19, 2011 5:20:17 GMT -5
As a person in the financial sector I would just like to point out how little information the media flows through to the public. What does come through is very selective. Most signs suggest that the U.S. is in a rather normal recovery. The indicators are lining up with historical trends. Therefore, what we would expect to see happening based on past experiences is basically what we are seeing today. In fact, corporate health is very high right now in the states showing tremendous amounts of cash that is being positioned for deployment.  |
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Post by Morris on Jan 19, 2011 13:24:13 GMT -5
...showing tremendous amounts of cash that is being positioned for deployment. Actually that's incorrect. It has already started, and in pace of which should be expected based on historical patterns. |
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