Post by simplyforgiven on Jan 7, 2011 1:04:02 GMT -5
Have you seen Posters have commited a number of these errors while debating or dicussing their points within this forum.
1) Posting a "Knife comment"
Is when someone makes a claim and expects everyone to believe it, when the cliam is not supported by any connections or proofs or any other idea. its just stated and expected to be believed, with no proof, nor connecting the proof.
What i call a knife comment can be best represented by this example:
Imagine that we are both prosecutors in a murder trial.
The intelligent lawyer states "This is the exhibit A: knife recovered in the crime seen that clearly belongs to the defendant who initials are written in the handle with his fingerprints and whos blade is spilled with the victems blood. With this evidence we can conclude that the defandt is responsible for the murder. i rest my case"
The foolish prosecutor "This is exhibit A: The Knife! THE KNIFE!!! everyone this is the KNIFE!!! and you have to believe me because this is enough proof to show that this man is guilty. the KNIFE! i rest my case" (*smirks* beats his monkey chest.)
2) Pointless arguements.
Is when decideing to post something pointless.
in other words nonsense.
For example:
A Response: woman shouldnt be treated bad,
B response: Jesus is the son of mary.
A replies: What?
3) Runaway statements:
Making statements to either avoid questions or trying to change the subject.
"What i dont have to answer that, the burden of proof is on you!"
4) Distracting Statements:
Making statements to distract other people and avoid the orginal points that were made.
" Well God is omnipresent" (even though we are talking about the divinity of Jesus"
5) Emotional Attacks
When a poster attacks a statement without defending himself first.
A: "Well the Quran says this,"
B: "Oh ya!! well the bible says this and that!! and this !!! so they are the same!!"
note: he doesnt refute your attack.
6) False Accusation -Stating what has not been said.
When a poster states that you said something that you didnt say, or stating what scripture does not state.
A:"well i disagree, your saying im ignorant, but God loves me and inspires me."
B: "Where did you get ignorant from me correcting you by not stating scripture?"
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7) Everything at the Speed of Light-
"when a poster posts a whole series of stuff in one post and expect you to rebut every point. Not only does the reply often need to be longer, but there is so much stuff in each post that the posters have room to dodge that which stumps them."-T8
8) "Starting over"
When a poster decides to start over and pretend to have amnesia, as if the other arguements didnt happen, and one has to start all over again....
9) OneLiners
When a poster posts a one line arguement believing its enough to refute a whole arguement.
10) Popularity Error:
Is when a poster believes that just because a source or a idea is popular, makes it true and use it as evidence to refute a cliam or other warrents.
11) Know It All fallacy
Is when a poster believes that their intellect is far superior than facts and ignore what they are ignorant about, believing that their intellect is enough evidence to prove everyone elses hard core facts.
for example: Why doesnt other new translations agree with you?
why doesnt all these scholars agree with you?
12)Evidence of Intentions Fallacy
Is when a poster uses intent of the writer as evidence to refute analysis based facts.
ex:
A-(claim) Jesus is God because (Warrent)he is the alpha and the omega mentioned in rev.22
B- oh really? well why didnt the genuis say that in the gospel of John? so it couldnt be true
13) Smoke and Mirrors (Mikes Scooby doo)
Are a line of tactics of persumed logic, that are only diversions from the true intent or heart of the matter or to scare the other poster into silence.
14)"Ad hominem." Latin for "at the man". " This is a debating tactic that attacks the arguer and not the argument. PLEASE, debate the words that people post, not your idea ABOUT the person that posts."-WJ
15) Foul diversion- Is when a poster crys and shouts out "abuse" "abuse" and All Posters will pay attention to the abuse and forget about the reasoning within the supposed "abuse" the Victem instead of ignoreing the abuse crys out intead of answering the reasoing behind the abuse-Just Askin
16)N/A debate Fallacy-In Real LD debate, if a Debater does not answer a questions or does not refute a point that is made, than the Point is automatcially Valid and upheld.
17)Unpopularity Error: "Is when a poster believes that just because a source or idea is unpopular, its unpopularity makes it false and unnecessary to refute. "-Bev
Dont you hate it when people do this?
its annoying right?
if you want to add anything go ahead and post.
1) Posting a "Knife comment"
Is when someone makes a claim and expects everyone to believe it, when the cliam is not supported by any connections or proofs or any other idea. its just stated and expected to be believed, with no proof, nor connecting the proof.
What i call a knife comment can be best represented by this example:
Imagine that we are both prosecutors in a murder trial.
The intelligent lawyer states "This is the exhibit A: knife recovered in the crime seen that clearly belongs to the defendant who initials are written in the handle with his fingerprints and whos blade is spilled with the victems blood. With this evidence we can conclude that the defandt is responsible for the murder. i rest my case"
The foolish prosecutor "This is exhibit A: The Knife! THE KNIFE!!! everyone this is the KNIFE!!! and you have to believe me because this is enough proof to show that this man is guilty. the KNIFE! i rest my case" (*smirks* beats his monkey chest.)
2) Pointless arguements.
Is when decideing to post something pointless.
in other words nonsense.
For example:
A Response: woman shouldnt be treated bad,
B response: Jesus is the son of mary.
A replies: What?
3) Runaway statements:
Making statements to either avoid questions or trying to change the subject.
"What i dont have to answer that, the burden of proof is on you!"
4) Distracting Statements:
Making statements to distract other people and avoid the orginal points that were made.
" Well God is omnipresent" (even though we are talking about the divinity of Jesus"
5) Emotional Attacks
When a poster attacks a statement without defending himself first.
A: "Well the Quran says this,"
B: "Oh ya!! well the bible says this and that!! and this !!! so they are the same!!"
note: he doesnt refute your attack.
6) False Accusation -Stating what has not been said.
When a poster states that you said something that you didnt say, or stating what scripture does not state.
A:"well i disagree, your saying im ignorant, but God loves me and inspires me."
B: "Where did you get ignorant from me correcting you by not stating scripture?"
*
7) Everything at the Speed of Light-
"when a poster posts a whole series of stuff in one post and expect you to rebut every point. Not only does the reply often need to be longer, but there is so much stuff in each post that the posters have room to dodge that which stumps them."-T8
8) "Starting over"
When a poster decides to start over and pretend to have amnesia, as if the other arguements didnt happen, and one has to start all over again....
9) OneLiners
When a poster posts a one line arguement believing its enough to refute a whole arguement.
10) Popularity Error:
Is when a poster believes that just because a source or a idea is popular, makes it true and use it as evidence to refute a cliam or other warrents.
11) Know It All fallacy
Is when a poster believes that their intellect is far superior than facts and ignore what they are ignorant about, believing that their intellect is enough evidence to prove everyone elses hard core facts.
for example: Why doesnt other new translations agree with you?
why doesnt all these scholars agree with you?
12)Evidence of Intentions Fallacy
Is when a poster uses intent of the writer as evidence to refute analysis based facts.
ex:
A-(claim) Jesus is God because (Warrent)he is the alpha and the omega mentioned in rev.22
B- oh really? well why didnt the genuis say that in the gospel of John? so it couldnt be true
13) Smoke and Mirrors (Mikes Scooby doo)
Are a line of tactics of persumed logic, that are only diversions from the true intent or heart of the matter or to scare the other poster into silence.
14)"Ad hominem." Latin for "at the man". " This is a debating tactic that attacks the arguer and not the argument. PLEASE, debate the words that people post, not your idea ABOUT the person that posts."-WJ
15) Foul diversion- Is when a poster crys and shouts out "abuse" "abuse" and All Posters will pay attention to the abuse and forget about the reasoning within the supposed "abuse" the Victem instead of ignoreing the abuse crys out intead of answering the reasoing behind the abuse-Just Askin
16)N/A debate Fallacy-In Real LD debate, if a Debater does not answer a questions or does not refute a point that is made, than the Point is automatcially Valid and upheld.
17)Unpopularity Error: "Is when a poster believes that just because a source or idea is unpopular, its unpopularity makes it false and unnecessary to refute. "-Bev
Dont you hate it when people do this?
its annoying right?
if you want to add anything go ahead and post.
