The Trinity Jan 5, 2011 16:36:53 GMT -5
Post by Allyn on Jan 5, 2011 16:36:53 GMT -5
Jan 4, 2011 21:42:55 GMT -5 @didymus said:
God is not a person. God is a spirit.
Three what? Three gods? Three persons? Three positions? Three titles?
Father is not a name, Son is not a name, Holy Spirit is not a name. They are titles. I think a person can have thee titles. If a person can have titles, so can a spirit. I have three titles. I'm a son, a grand-son, a brother. But I am one, not three distinct persons.
Please forgive me for being confused, but earlier I had asked you the question...
"Is Jesus God"? and you replied...
Dec 29, 2010 20:40:27 GMT -5 @didymus said:Not in the sense that the Father is God. The son is "God with us," because the Son has the Father in Him.
Yet now you are saying that the same "Spirit" who is God has the titles Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
It seems to be a play on words to me because if you say that the "three titles" are God then why did you say "Jesus is God but not in the sense the Father is God"? Wouldn't he be God like the Father in every sense? If not then how could he be just another manifestation of God? If the Son is only a manifestation of the Father then why do you say that he is God because the Father was in him? Was the Father in himself?
Why did Jesus use the definite article for the three, why didn't he just say "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Also it seems to me that Metaphors like Jesus sitting at the right hand of the Father are completely useless if the Father and the Son are not distinct persons and especially if the Father and the Son are not persons but merely "A Spirit".
Not to mention you must believe that the Word that was with God and was God is the Father with himself who also became flesh meaning he is the mediator of himself.
As far as God is a Spirit, and not a person, well do you know a Father or a Son who are not persons. The titles Father and Son imply that God is a person if not then the titles are useless in showing us who God is.
Man is flesh but man is also made in the image of God, and man is personal or a person. If God is not a person then in what sense is man made in his image?
I'm sorry to announce it this way but Didymus has deleted his account and left. He PM'd me before doing so and I don't know if he even read my request for him to reconsider and not make a rash decision. Hopefully he will decide to return but he will need to open a new account because of the deletion of his old one.