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Post by Once4all on Oct 24, 2010 16:54:04 GMT -5
I know there are shades of differences in the full preterist beliefs of the major preterist authors. I wish there was a list of these authors that provided a brief statement or short summary of what their particular "bent" on full preterism is. It would make the decisions involved in buying books easier. For example, I received an email from Kurt Simmons listing several of his books. They all sound interesting, but I seem to remember someone saying he believed "such and such," which is different from what "so and so" said. I just like to know where an author is coming from before I buy the book. There used to be a website called "Realms of Faith: Christian Authors Database" that was a WEALTH of information about all the past and current authors of Christian non-fiction books. And it covered all belief traditions, from Arminianism to the Word-Faith movement. It didn't, for the most part, make judgment calls, but simply stated what theological background the author was coming from. That database has been gone now for a couple of years. I sure wish I had downloaded the pages before it went belly up. Oh, hey! I just found it on the Wayback Machine (the Internet Archive). I don't know how much of the sub-content they've archived, but the main page is here: web.archive.org/web/20071127092038/http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/authors.htmlAnyway, I'd like to see some kind of resource that provided the nuances of preterist authors.
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Post by Morris on Oct 25, 2010 11:14:32 GMT -5
As I was reading I was thinking, "hey, I should tell her about the wayback machine as it could help out"! But then my thunder was stolen... Definitely sounds like a great resource though. I'll have to check it out.
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Post by Once4all on Oct 25, 2010 12:02:57 GMT -5
I tried saving the website from the Wayback Machine link, but all I can get it to download is the first page of the author index. Even using Backstreet Browser (an application designed to download entire websites), it only grabs the initial page. The sub-pages are still there, but they seem to take an inordinate length of time to load. The content is complete with photographs of the authors. I don't think they have any full-preterist authors listed.
Here are several examples from across the spectrum (without the photos):
John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) - Irish founder of dispensationalism. Appalled at the unregenerate clergy in Britain and at liberals' handling of Scripture, he joined the Plymouth Brethren and became the chief architect and theologian of classical fundamentalism. The dominant idea behind Darby's theology (based on Ephesians 2:5-7) was that the blessings promised to the church are spiritual, while those promised to Israel were (and remain) material. He also produced a Synopsis of the Books of the Bible and his own translation of the Old and New Testaments.
Henry Halley (1874-1965) - "Amiable fundamentalist" pastor for the Disciples of Christ. Halley called for more biblical preaching and leadership among pastors and, in 1924, used his pulpit background notes to produce an 800-page handbook to educate his people. This resource was expanded to become Halley's Bible Handbook, one of the first lay-level works of its kind. He also had a love for Bible memorization and could recite as much as 25 hours worth of Scripture.
Hank Hanegraaff (b. 1950) - conservative evangelical known to radio listeners as "The Bible Answer Man." president of Christian Research Institute, which focuses on exposing doctrinal error and warning against aberrant religious groups. Most noted for his opposition to the Word of Faith and to Calvinism, and more recently for his embracing of a partial preterist view of end-time prophecy. Hanegraaff is known for applying memory techniques to apologetics. His ministry has been plagued with controversy due to his no-holds-barred criticism of false teaching and a long-standing dispute over his succession of Walter Martin as head of CRI. Titles: The Bible Answer Book; Christianity in Crisis; Counterfeit Revival; The Covering; The Da Vinci Code: Fact or Fiction?; The FACE that Demonstrates the Farce of Evolution; The Last Disciple; 99 Reasons Why No One Knows When Christ Will Return; The Prayer of Jesus; Resurrection; The Third Day.
T. D. Jakes (b. 1957) - popular preacher with a Baptist background and heavy influence from Oneness Pentecostals, and thus has a view of the Trinity similar to that of Praxeas. Jakes centers his theology around the concept of anointing and speaks about freedom from spiritual bondage and sexual inhibition, as well as an egalitarian approach to the role of women in ministry. Titles: Can You Stand to Be Blessed?; Celebrating Marriage; Cover Girls; Daddy Loves His Girls; Follow the Star; God's Leading Lady; The Lady, Her Lover, and Her Lord; Lay Aside the Weight; Loose That Man and Let Him Go; Loosed to Lead; Maximize the Moment; No More Sheets; So You Call Yourself a Man?; Woman, Thou Art Loosed! He also produced the Woman, Thou Art Loosed! Study Bible.
Rick Joyner - founder of Morning Star Fellowship Church. Claims to receive prophecies directly from Jesus, redefining all the major doctrines of Christianity. He is one of the most prominent prophets of an upcoming war between charismatic revivalists and all those who oppose them. Links the restoration of charismatic gifts to end-time prophecy. Joyner is one of the few revivalists so controversial that his legitimacy as a prophet is questioned even by Charisma magazine. Titles: Breaking the Power of Evil; The Call; Epic Battles of the Last Days; The Final Quest; The Harvest; The Journey Begins; A Message to the Glorious Church; Mobilizing the Army of God; Overcoming Evil in the Last Days; Overcoming the Religious Spirit; A Prophetic Vision for the 21st Century; Shadows of Things to Come; The Surpassing Greatness of His Power; There Were Two Trees in the Garden; The Torch and the Sword.
Max Lucado (b. 1955) - Arminian evangelical Church of Christ pulpit minister for Oak Hills Church who uses his skills as a master storyteller to present his ideas. Both his adult and children's titles are generally best-sellers. He places a strong emphasis on the person of Christ and substitutionary atonement. He has moved away from distinctive Church of Christ beliefs by embracing eternal security and teaching that baptism does not wash away sin. Titles include: And the Angels Were Silent; The Applause of Heaven; Because I Love You; The Crippled Lamb; Experiencing the Heart of Jesus; God Thinks You're Wonderful; Grace for the Moment; The Great House of God; He Chose the Nails; He Still Moves Stones; In the Grip of Grace; It's Not About Me; Just in Case You Ever Wonder; Just Like Jesus; Let the Journey Begin; A Love Worth Giving; Mocha with Max; Next Door Savior; No Wonder They Call Him the Savior; On the Anvil; Safe in the Shepherd's Arm; Six Hours One Friday; Traveling Light; Turn; When Christ Comes; When God Whispers Your Name; You Are Mine; You Are Special. (Note: the name Lucado rhymes with Play-Doh, not bravado.)
John MacArthur (b. 1939) - Reformed dispensational evangelical pastor of Grace Community Church since 1969, a Baptist church affiliated with the Independent Fundamentalist Churches of America. He is also founder of The Master's Seminary, and host of the radio program Grace to You. MacArthur is the primary advocate of Lordship salvation among dispensationalists and has also written in defense of young-earth creationism. With verse-by-verse expository preaching, he opposes the infiltration of liberalism, secular psychology, deliverance ministries, and empty worship forms into the church. Titles: Anxiety Attacked; Ashamed of the Gospel; The Battle for the Beginning; Charismatic Chaos; A Faith to Grow On; Found: God's Will; The Glory of Heaven; The God Who Loves; The Gospel According to Jesus; The Gospel According to the Apostles; Hard to Believe; Introduction to Biblical Counseling; The Master's Plan for the Church; The Murder of Jesus; O Worship the King (Ed.); Onward Christian Soldiers' Rediscovering Expository Preaching; Safe in the Arms of God; Saved Without a Doubt; Terrorism, Jihad, and the Bible; Twelve Ordinary Men; and the MacArthur New Testament Commentary series. He also produced the MacArthur Study Bible and a series of Bible studies.
Hugh Ross (b. 1945) - conservative evangelical astrophysicist and head of Reasons to Believe. Ross also serves as evangelism coordinator at Sierra Madre Congregational Church. An old-earth creationist, Ross is adamantly inerrancy and opposed to evolution, and uses the age and size of the universe, the theory of relativity, and the scientific accuracy of Genesis as apologetic tools. Excellent as an apologist, but his over-dependence on theoretical physics makes him somewhat shaky when applying general revelation to weighty theology questions. Titles: Creation and Time; The Creator and the Cosmos; The Fingerprint of God; The Genesis Question; Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men; A Matter of Days; The Origins of Life (w/ Fazale Rana).
R. C. Sproul (b. 1939) - Reformed evangelical chair of Ligonier Ministries, professor at Knox Theological Seminary, and host of Renewing Your Mind. A Presbyterian covenant theologian known for his erudite style and his opposition to Arminianism, liberalism, evolution, and full preterism. Titles: Chosen by God; The consequences of Ideas; The Dark Side of Islam (w/ Abdul Saleeb); Defending Your Faith; Essential Truths of th eChristian Faith; Grace Unknown; The Holiness of God; The Intimate Marriage; Knowing Scripture; The Last Days According to Jesus; Lifeviews; Now, That's a Good Question; Pleasing God; Renewing Your Mind; Running the Race; Surprised by Suffering; Willing to Believe; and a commentary on Ephesians. He also helped produce the New Geneva Study Bible.
Here is their entry defining Eschatology. Preterism gets a small mention at the end:
Eschatology
Eschatology is the doctrine of death, the afterlife, and the end of human history.
The historic Protestant view of death is that those who are saved go to heaven when they die, while the condemned are sent to hell. Catholics hold to a belief in purgatory, a place where the souls of Christians endure a painful period of purification to cleanse themselves of sin before they can enter heaven. Time in purgatory could be reduced through the purchase of indulgences. Some teachers deny the existence of hell, instead teaching annihilationism, the belief that the wicked simply cease to exist after death. A recent book called Embraced by the Light popularized near-death experiences and a New-Age understanding of death.
Throughout church history, most Christians have awaited the return of Christ. But the exact sequence of events associated with His return is the subject of debate. Much of the debate turns on how much of end-time prophecy with regard to God's kingdom has been "realized" and how much remains in the future. The premillennial view is that Jesus will return and then establish a kingdom on earth, the kingdom described in Revelation 20:1-6. Historic premillennialists believe that the resurrection of the dead and the rapture of Christians who are alive will occur at that time, to deliver them from the tribulation that spans the entire history of the church. However, most dispensationalists await a pretribulational rapture, in which Jesus will return to take the church to heaven, where they will stay while the earth endures seven years of tribulation. Only after that will Jesus return, this time with His church, to establish His kingdom. (Some dispensationalists are post-tribulational, belieiving in an end-time tribulation but associating the rapture with the return of Christ that follows.)
Another end-time view is postmillennialism, an optimistic view in which God will establish His kingdom through the work of the church in a worldwide revival and a long period of Christian preeminence. Only after this time will Christ return. (This is not to be confused with fringe groups who wish to reinstitute Old Testament law or take the world by force; postmillennialists and other orthodox Christians believe the kingdom advances through the spread of the gospel.) More common today is amillennialism, which sees the kingdom of Revelation 20 as symbolic of the church age itself. In these schemes, Jesus' return will bring about the end of the world and the beginning of eternity.
An alternative view is preterism, which sees all biblical prophecy as fulfilled in the first century. Partial preterists see most of the events prophesied in the Olivet Discourse and Revelation 6-18 as having taken place in A.D. 70, when Jerusalem was destroyed. Full preterists (sometimes called hyper-preterists) believe that prophecies of Christ's return and of the resurrection of the dead also occurred by that time, and that therefore all end-time prophecy has already been fulfilled.
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Post by Ken on Feb 21, 2015 0:02:13 GMT -5
Hogh Ross is an idiot. His crazy theories are non-sense. He does not believe the truth of God's Word. Don't waste your time reading anything this guy writes.
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