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Post by mellontes on Jun 18, 2010 8:53:11 GMT -5
Although some may already be familiar with James Jordan's works, Here is a link to a free downloadble pdf that deals with the animals of Genesis and so much more. James Jordan is not a full-preterist. Here is the link: freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2232_47e.htmA quick read from pages 99-101 will give you an idea of his approach to Scripture...and when combined with passages like Isaiah 11:6-9 and Isaiah 65:25, things begin to make more sense, that is, of course, my opinion.
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jun 18, 2010 21:35:30 GMT -5
trying to post here and couldn't so thought I would test quick reply
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jun 18, 2010 21:36:03 GMT -5
Ok that worked -
Its always good to read the end first since that is where you can find what drives the author to write the book in the first place. Here it is from page 289:
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The Course of History
These earnest people call us back to the best of our forefathers, but all too often think that this is all we need.
Now, I don’t want to leave anyone out, but I’m sure I will. Time will fail me if I tell of the revival of evangelical belief in Roman Catholicism, the renewal of Psalm-singing in mainline churches, the deepening theological endeavors of various para- church organizations, and the like. I have been involved with many of these, and in each case, those with the Ark think it is most important; those with the Tabernacle think it is most im- portant; and those with the ephod think it is most important. Christendom today is scattered.
The future, though, cannot be envisioned. It is no good if we all join the neo-Puritans, or the Reconstructionists, or the re- newed Orthodox, or the discipleship Charismatic. God has taken hold of Christendom and He has torn it apart. He intends to put it back together again in a new Kingdom Establishment. We cannot advance His timetable, or presume upon His designs.
What then? Our present duties remain the same as ever. The Christian is not called to play God and manipulate history, but to serve God in his calling. And this pulls us back to basics: Bible study, prayer, the sacraments, godly home life, public worship, faithful work on the job.
For the pastor, it means that whatever camp we are in, our duties remain the same. Let worship be a true covenant re- newal, with the rite of covenant renewal restored (see Chapter 10). Let us return to God’s hymnal, the Psalter, as the foundation of our hymns (not excluding the other great hymns of the Church). Let Bible study and Biblical exposition be foremost in our teaching and preaching. In this way, we lay a foundation, we build up the saints, we prepare the way for the New Estab- lishment to come. Who knows just how wonderful it will be?
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Post by Once4all on Jun 19, 2010 2:23:17 GMT -5
Ted did say that the author was not a full preterist. It is hard to tell from that ending text just what point the author was trying to make.
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jun 19, 2010 21:53:17 GMT -5
Well the points I noted is that first he blames God for the state of Christendom as if that was His plan until such time as He returns. The 2nd was that this Christian life is but duty for those things he listed - as if this duty was not also a precious privilege, but merely to be endured until the Lord is really here physically. Then a real renewal can take place after we have prepared the way for the Lord's return. Mostly I don't see much faith nor belief in his statements. According to the problems he lists, the Lord would have to come back in order to rescue us from our own demise - lest He destroy us instead. But I suppose those who have done their duty well will escape that!
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Post by Once4all on Jun 19, 2010 22:23:17 GMT -5
Well the points I noted is that first he blames God for the state of Christendom as if that was His plan until such time as He returns. ... Yup. "God has taken hold of Christendom and He has torn it apart." I think my mind shut down after reading that one. Viewing the table of contents, I think there probably is some good, or at the very least interesting, information in the book. I have it opened in a tab intending to read a bit of it. (Along with a bunch of other things opened in tabs that I am intending to read! At last count, I had 118 tabs open in Firefox. Not all are things to be read, but things I am not ready to close for one reason or another.)
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