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Post by Once4all on Dec 22, 2009 23:07:50 GMT -5
The are new CARM forums at FORUMS.CARM.ORG/VBB/INDEX.PHPThe old forums will close next Tuesday, 29 December 2009. There are currently NO posts in the Preterist forum at the new location. A clean slate! Who will be the first to post there? Oh yeah, you'll have to re-register, and they'll only transfer your rep points and old post counts if you spring for a Super Membership. So you'll be starting from scratch, unless you want to pay. |
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Post by mellontes on Dec 23, 2009 0:43:32 GMT -5
The are new CARM forums at FORUMS.CARM.ORG/VBB/INDEX.PHPThe old forums will close next Tuesday, 29 December 2009. There are currently NO posts in the Preterist forum at the new location. A clean slate! Who will be the first to post there? Oh yeah, you'll have to re-register, and they'll only transfer your rep points and old post counts if you spring for a Super Membership. So you'll be starting from scratch, unless you want to pay. I clicked on that URL you gave and got the following: File Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.
Please click here to access the christiandiscussionforums.org home page |
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Post by Once4all on Dec 23, 2009 1:24:17 GMT -5
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Post by mellontes on Dec 23, 2009 11:44:49 GMT -5
That works just fine!!! I noticed that one has to double-click certain links to get the same effect as single-clicking them from the prior CARM site...and now that doesn't seem to work. Looks like there are some "bugs" in the system, and I am not talking about preterists... |
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Post by Michael J Loomis on Dec 23, 2009 17:39:14 GMT -5
They are using the newest, latest and greatest version of Vbulletin. I haven't gotten it yet for my forum. I'd like to see some bugs get worked out first. That and my focus is elsewhere right now.  |
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Post by Once4all on Dec 27, 2009 22:47:59 GMT -5
Well, the Preterism forum at the new CARM forums site finally has a post. Roderick made the first post, with his introduction to preterism. As you can imagine, it's biased.
The new forums aren't working too smoothly; there are a few glitches. I haven't been on the old CARM boards in a few days, so I don't know if they still plan to shut down the old boards on the 29th.
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Post by MoGrace2U on Dec 28, 2009 11:31:28 GMT -5
It figures that RodE would be first to post. I added my response .
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Post by Once4all on Dec 28, 2009 12:32:44 GMT -5
It figures that RodE would be first to post. I added my response . I saw that. Good job. You and Sower both posted. I'm glad to see some preterists stepping in over there. I haven't because I just don't feel that I have a strong grasp of it all, enough to refute those guys, like you ladies do. Who's Wanda Short? Did she post under that name on the old CARM forum? I don't remember seeing that name there. |
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Post by Once4all on Jan 2, 2010 21:42:00 GMT -5
I just noticed that they've moved the Bible Study forum at CARM from the Theology section to the Evangelical/Ministry section and have restricted posting only to "Evangelical Members." But any member can read.
So, basically, they've changed if from a Bible "study" to Reformed Evangelical indoctrination.
Part of me understands why they did it, but another part of me is a little perturbed by it because I used to participate in that forum every now and then.
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jan 3, 2010 16:57:46 GMT -5
Hi Bev,
Now all they need to do is actually study the bible, because from the posts in there so far I don't see that happening.
How do you like that statement of faith? With no scriptures cited for their 'bible study' section! Seems like that would have been a good place to begin...
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Post by Once4all on Jan 3, 2010 19:03:55 GMT -5
Hi Bev, Now all they need to do is actually study the bible, because from the posts in there so far I don't see that happening. How do you like that statement of faith? With no scriptures cited for their 'bible study' section! Seems like that would have been a good place to begin... Hi Robin, I hadn't viewed the statement of faith for the forum until I read your post. That is a bit odd that they wouldn't cite any of it. I guess if the creeds didn't need citations, they don't either! The statement of faith for the main CARM website does have scripture citations. I think it's the longest statement of faith for a Christian website that I've ever seen! www.carm.org/statement-faithA fanciful thought, but it just occurred to me after reading that looong statement of faith that - while they'd be the first to shout "Christians are not under law!" - they then throw a long list of conditions at you in order to be accepted by them as a Christian. They are building their own "Law," one statement of faith at a time. Bev |
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jan 3, 2010 21:38:18 GMT -5
How interesting is it that the apostle did not see fit to make a list like that! Why don't they just say, 'here is the bible, read it and believe it'. Then they could leave it up to the Lord to see that we understand it!
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Post by Once4all on Jan 3, 2010 22:42:04 GMT -5
Exactly. Not entirely applicable, but it made me think of this verse:
(Matthew 23:4 NASB) "They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger.
The apostles preached that we should believe the gospel. But what is the gospel? Most people will cite 1 Corinthians 15:3-4. And that is true, but so many don't seem to realize that those verses are proclaiming the same gospel that Jesus proclaimed here:
(Mark 1:15 NASB) and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
The good news is that "the time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand"! Who was foretold to be the one to usher in the kingdom of God? The Messiah! That's why Jesus' disciples asked him, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6).
And the WAY that this was done points back to what Paul identified as the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 -
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 NASB
(3) For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
(4) and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
Since I'm on a roll, let me just wrap it up this way:
Romans 1:1-4 NASB
(1) Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
(2) which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures,
(3) concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,
(4) who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord,
Paul preached the same "gospel of God" that Jesus preached:
Mark 1:14-15 NASB
(14) Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
(15) and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
"The time is fulfilled..." - at least preterists believe that!
Bev
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Post by Allyn on Jan 4, 2010 8:04:51 GMT -5
Exactly. Not entirely applicable, but it made me think of this verse: (Matthew 23:4 NASB) "They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger. The apostles preached that we should believe the gospel. But what is the gospel? Most people will cite 1 Corinthians 15:3-4. And that is true, but so many don't seem to realize that those verses are proclaiming the same gospel that Jesus proclaimed here: (Mark 1:15 NASB) and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." The good news is that "the time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand"! Who was foretold to be the one to usher in the kingdom of God? The Messiah! That's why Jesus' disciples asked him, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6). And the WAY that this was done points back to what Paul identified as the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 NASB (3) For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, (4) and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, Since I'm on a roll, let me just wrap it up this way: Romans 1:1-4 NASB (1) Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, (2) which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, (3) concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, (4) who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord, Paul preached the same "gospel of God" that Jesus preached: Mark 1:14-15 NASB (14) Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, (15) and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." "The time is fulfilled..." - at least preterists believe that! Bev Loved it, Bev |
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Post by MoGrace2U on Jan 4, 2010 11:04:15 GMT -5
They do this in order to create a division among men because believing the gospel of God in sending His Son into the world to give men the light of salvation - is not enough for them. They want to see men who have the same outer appearance because otherwise they don't know who belongs to the Lord and who doesn't. There are many things wrong in their statement of faith which concern not the testimony of Jesus. Because the true testimony that one is in Him is that they love the brethren. Now where is their list for that? Because a mere profession of faith doesn't count much if one doesn't bear a testimony that Christ is working in him bearing fruit for the Father. And there is not much of that fruit visible on CARM at all!
Perhaps if one becomes a CARM supporter all is forgiven? Then it is Ok to feed the sheep with thorns and thistles instead...
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