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Post by Allyn on Dec 10, 2009 12:36:40 GMT -5
I put a great audio teaching on www.preteristvoice.org by Ward Fenley on Psalm 103 and the fact every tear is gone. Be sure to refresh the page when you get to the website. its an Mp3 audio approximately 51 minutes long but is great right through to the end. |
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Post by mellontes on Dec 10, 2009 15:15:10 GMT -5
I put a great audio teaching on www.preteristvoice.org by Ward Fenley on Psalm 103 and the fact every tear is gone. Be sure to refresh the page when you get to the website. its an Mp3 audio approximately 51 minutes long but is great right through to the end. Isn't Ward a covenant creationist?  Doesn't the aspect of every tear being gone represent the hardships of the old covenant economy? And then compared to the light yoke of Christ? |
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Post by bryan729 on Dec 10, 2009 15:49:33 GMT -5
I don't really know enough about Covenant Creation to give an informative comment. I will say, in my opinion I find it interesting, and they may make some valid points.
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Post by Allyn on Dec 10, 2009 16:11:28 GMT -5
I put a great audio teaching on www.preteristvoice.org by Ward Fenley on Psalm 103 and the fact every tear is gone. Be sure to refresh the page when you get to the website. its an Mp3 audio approximately 51 minutes long but is great right through to the end. Isn't Ward a covenant creationist? Doesn't the aspect of every tear being gone represent the hardships of the old covenant economy? And then compared to the light yoke of Christ? Maybe he is - I don't know. What I do know is that when someone presents a topic and lets Scripture interpret Scripture and it makes biblical sense  to do so then I seldom consider what ism that person is. I am a preterist, generally speaking, but that does not prevent me from being a full biblist as well. I thought his teaching was spot on. Mellontes, what did you think of it? Hows the weather up there? |
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Post by mellontes on Dec 10, 2009 16:53:49 GMT -5
Isn't Ward a covenant creationist? Doesn't the aspect of every tear being gone represent the hardships of the old covenant economy? And then compared to the light yoke of Christ? Maybe he is - I don't know. What I do know is that when someone presents a topic and lets Scripture interpret Scripture and it makes biblical sense to do so then I seldom consider what ism that person is. I am a preterist, generally speaking, but that does not prevent me from being a full biblist as well. I thought his teaching was spot on. Mellontes, what did you think of it? Hows the weather up there? First of all, I was just ribbing you about Ward being a CC. I think he is (pretty sure, since he and Tami are practically joined at the hip). Ya just gotta understand that I am as humorous as I am passionate. The trick is in separating the two...  Ward's was an excellent message for the dispensational crowd as well - although it starts at an advanced level of Bible understanding (for dispies that is). We had our first snow yesterday and then it rained. And then the "slush" got cold...couldn't shovel the driveway because the snow was extremely wet and heavy and now we can't shovel because the slush has turned to ice. Ward's message on "No More Tears" is slightly better than this one: www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/19/903960/09%20No%20More%20Tears.mp3 |
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Post by Allyn on Dec 10, 2009 16:56:23 GMT -5
Maybe he is - I don't know. What I do know is that when someone presents a topic and lets Scripture interpret Scripture and it makes biblical sense to do so then I seldom consider what ism that person is. I am a preterist, generally speaking, but that does not prevent me from being a full biblist as well. I thought his teaching was spot on. Mellontes, what did you think of it? Hows the weather up there? First of all, I was just ribbing you about Ward being a CC. I think he is (pretty sure, since he and Tami are practically joined at the hip). Ya just gotta understand that I am as humorous as I am passionate. The trick is in separating the two... Ward's was an excellent message for the dispensational crowd as well - although it starts at an advanced level of Bible understanding (for dispies that is). We had our first snow yesterday and then it rained. And then the "slush" got cold...couldn't shovel the driveway because the snow was extremely wet and heavy and now we can't shovel because the slush has turned to ice. Ward's message on "No More Tears" is slightly better than this one: [a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/19/903960/09%20 No%20More%20Tears.mp3"]http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/19/903960/09%20 No%20More%20Tears.mp3 [/a][/quote] Hi Ted, I knew you were ribbing me. No problem. My post was also for the benefit of Bryan. Your link went nowhere  except to a page where music could be downloaded and then it never gave a choice of a selection. It was a login site. |
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Post by mellontes on Dec 10, 2009 17:06:55 GMT -5
Bryan who?...
Sorry about that Allyn, I tried bolding the No More Tears portion of the link and that messed it up. I have modified the link and have tested it to be accurate.
Blessings!
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Post by Allyn on Dec 10, 2009 17:45:57 GMT -5
Bryan who?... Sorry about that Allyn, I tried bolding the No More Tears portion of the link and that messed it up. I have modified the link and have tested it to be accurate. Blessings! I should have known... I clicked the link and turned up the volume and prepared myself for listening to a lecture. Needless to say I now need to go to the ear specialist. |
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Post by Once4all on Dec 10, 2009 18:43:24 GMT -5
I put a great audio teaching on www.preteristvoice.org by Ward Fenley on Psalm 103 and the fact every tear is gone. Be sure to refresh the page when you get to the website. its an Mp3 audio approximately 51 minutes long but is great right through to the end. That was interesting, but he sure took a long time to get to the point. That point being, at least the point I took away from it, is that which is stated in Isaiah 33:24 - (Isaiah 33:24 NASB) And no resident will say, "I am sick"; The people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity. That "no more tears" and "no more sickness" refers to that which is brought about by sin. And that Christ's healings were but physical symbols of the greater spiritual healing that he brought. All of which he said in the last 5 minutes of his sermon. And of course — which he didn't mention — that Jesus' signs were to show that he is the Christ, the Son of God, as John 20:31 states. Bev |
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Post by mellontes on Dec 10, 2009 21:35:20 GMT -5
Bryan who?... Sorry about that Allyn, I tried bolding the No More Tears portion of the link and that messed it up. I have modified the link and have tested it to be accurate. Blessings! I should have known... I clicked the link and turned up the volume and prepared myself for listening to a lecture. Needless to say I now need to go to the ear specialist. Sorry Allyn. I couldn't resist. You didn't like Ozzie Osborne's view? |
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