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Post by stephenpatrick on May 21, 2010 12:41:23 GMT -5
I finished reading his book a few weeks ago and loved it. It's titled, Creeds, Credentials, or Christ. It is a clear and very unique presentation of the fulfilled view which will leave the dispensationalist to either despise him all the more or thank him for this wake up. I have yet to read anything like it in the past few years at any website or book on the topic of fulfilled prophecy. In one very long chapter he deals with the time statements in the NT. Not just the eschatological ones, but "all of them", leaving the reader to either accept the normal understanding of the words "near or soon" or words just can mean anything we want them to mean. Ted also demands that the reader not take his word for it, but to read the verses he points to in the context given to see if these things are true. Now I know why his dispy friends got mad at him and left him after he gave them his book. Impossible for a futurist to not have this study affect their current paradigm. I wish Don Preston, Sam Frost, William Bell, Kurt Simmons, David Green, or some well known preterist author would read this and help him to get it published. I personally think we've got a gold mine of a friend and teacher on this forum. Blessings. Steve
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Post by mellontes on May 21, 2010 15:35:30 GMT -5
I finished reading his book a few weeks ago and loved it. It's titled, Creeds, Credentials, or Christ. It is a clear and very unique presentation of the fulfilled view which will leave the dispensationalist to either despise him all the more or thank him for this wake up. I have yet to read anything like it in the past few years at any website or book on the topic of fulfilled prophecy. In one very long chapter he deals with the time statements in the NT. Not just the eschatological ones, but "all of them", leaving the reader to either accept the normal understanding of the words "near or soon" or words just can mean anything we want them to mean. Ted also demands that the reader not take his word for it, but to read the verses he points to in the context given to see if these things are true. Now I know why his dispy friends got mad at him and left him after he gave them his book. Impossible for a futurist to not have this study affect their current paradigm. I wish Don Preston, Sam Frost, William Bell, Kurt Simmons, David Green, or some well known preterist author would read this and help him to get it published. I personally think we've got a gold mine of a friend and teacher on this forum. Blessings. Steve I just read this in my office and wanted to go downstairs into the kitchen to get something to drink. To my amazement, I couldn't get through the door opening. I guess I am going to have to wait until the swelling goes down...
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Post by didymus on May 21, 2010 17:36:00 GMT -5
Stephan,
Where can this book be found. I am not much of a reader, but you make it sound very interesting. I'd like to read it, and is I like it, I suggest we take up a "Publishing Ted's Book Fund," and then get the book published. I think the minimum we would need is $5,000.
Didy - Publisher
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Post by stephenpatrick on May 21, 2010 18:29:04 GMT -5
Stephan, Where can this book be found. I am not much of a reader, but you make it sound very interesting. I'd like to read it, and is I like it, I suggest we take up a "Publishing Ted's Book Fund," and then get the book published. I think the minimum we would need is $5,000. Didy - Publisher I found it way up in the wilds of Canada. Just go north and look for the guy who's head is stuck in the doorway of his office. Talk to Ted. Thats who I got it from.
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Post by didymus on May 22, 2010 0:04:23 GMT -5
Well, I can't go to Canada. Is there any other way to get this book? Inquiring minds want to know. Didy
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Post by Allyn on May 22, 2010 6:28:30 GMT -5
Ted, Have you thought of using LuLu publishing at www.lulu.com ? They make most of the profit but at least you will have it published and its free.
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Post by mellontes on May 22, 2010 7:22:17 GMT -5
Ted, Have you thought of using LuLu publishing at www.lulu.com ? They make most of the profit but at least you will have it published and its free. I have looked at LuLu, and I must admit, I found the process very confusing...I didn't get the impression that is was free. Is it really free? I also understand that a 300 page book (250 pages in a reduced font) would make it in the mid $20 range which I think is a little high for anyone to pay plus shipping... Thanks though. Check your PM's lately?
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Post by Allyn on May 22, 2010 10:30:25 GMT -5
Ted, Have you thought of using LuLu publishing at www.lulu.com ? They make most of the profit but at least you will have it published and its free. I have looked at LuLu, and I must admit, I found the process very confusing...I didn't get the impression that is was free. Is it really free? I also understand that a 300 page book (250 pages in a reduced font) would make it in the mid $20 range which I think is a little high for anyone to pay plus shipping... Thanks though. Check your PM's lately? Yes I understand that the books seem expensive, but the advantage is that they almost always list it with Amazon and there are people who will by the book if it has a goo description of what it entails. You don't have to have any mark-up. That keeps the book more reasonably priced. And YES, its free. If you send me the table of contents, intros preface and the ibids I can set it up on lulu for you and then I will feature it indefinitely on Preterist Voice.
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Post by Once4all on May 22, 2010 20:58:02 GMT -5
I have looked at LuLu, and I must admit, I found the process very confusing...I didn't get the impression that is was free. Is it really free? I also understand that a 300 page book (250 pages in a reduced font) would make it in the mid $20 range which I think is a little high for anyone to pay plus shipping... Thanks though. Check your PM's lately? Yes I understand that the books seem expensive, but the advantage is that they almost always list it with Amazon and there are people who will by the book if it has a goo description of what it entails. You don't have to have any mark-up. That keeps the book more reasonably priced. And YES, its free. If you send me the table of contents, intros preface and the ibids I can set it up on lulu for you and then I will feature it indefinitely on Preterist Voice. Ted, is the book ready for publication? Would you like me to proofread/edit it for you? No charge, except two copies of the published book and an acknowledgment. I read so many self-published books that are riddled with typos and misspellings. It leaves a very bad impression with the reader.
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Post by mellontes on May 22, 2010 23:04:51 GMT -5
Allyn said to Ted: "If you send me the table of contents, intros preface and the ibids I can set it up on lulu for you and then I will feature it indefinitely on Preterist Voice."
And I say: "What the heck is an "ibid"? I don't have a table of contents and my intro and preface may not fit the established standard - in other words, I am probably unclear as to exactly what kind of content would go in each...but I'm always up for more learning.
Blessings, Ted
P.S. - Who pays for the ISBN number and barcoding. I understand that these must be purchased individually or by blocks at my cost, but there is so much I don't understand about Lulu.
If one self-publishes it through Lulu, can it be published at a later date through someone else? Who holds the rights?
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Post by Allyn on May 23, 2010 7:20:24 GMT -5
Allyn said to Ted: " If you send me the table of contents, intros preface and the ibids I can set it up on lulu for you and then I will feature it indefinitely on Preterist Voice." And I say: " What the heck is an "ibid"? I don't have a table of contents and my intro and preface may not fit the established standard - in other words, I am probably unclear as to exactly what kind of content would go in each...but I'm always up for more learning. Blessings, Ted P.S. - Who pays for the ISBN number and barcoding. I understand that these must be purchased individually or by blocks at my cost, but there is so much I don't understand about Lulu. If one self-publishes it through Lulu, can it be published at a later date through someone else? Who holds the rights? An ibid is a kind of register of credits to the person or persons you may be directly quoting. They are usually at the bottom of the page or in a place of its own in the back of a book. You have total right to your book. Lulu make no claims of your book. You are self-publishing through Lulu. Lulu pays for the total cost of publishing and there are no quantities required. Lets say that only 5 people order your book all at different times in a year - Lulu prints each book as each order comes in, whether it be one book or thousands.
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Post by Allyn on May 23, 2010 8:14:09 GMT -5
With your permission, Ted, I would like to experiment with your book at Lulu. It looks like it would be a candidate for a soft cover book and that brings the cost way down. There is no obligation with Lulu and the book can be removed at any time.
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Post by didymus on May 23, 2010 10:25:28 GMT -5
You know, I've been thinking about this. Are there not any preterist publishing companies? If not, there should be.
Didy
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Post by mellontes on May 23, 2010 21:49:53 GMT -5
With your permission, Ted, I would like to experiment with your book at Lulu. It looks like it would be a candidate for a soft cover book and that brings the cost way down. There is no obligation with Lulu and the book can be removed at any time. Allyn, Experiment away! I compared the size of my work to Don Preston's " The Elements Shall Melt with Fervent Heat" (if you have that book it will serve as a pretty accurate guide as to what the final outcome should more or less look like...). Although I do quote a few sources (ibids), I give the source within the main body of the book. I choose that method because 1) there are so few quotes and 2) I did not want to give any kind of impression that this was a " this person said this" and he or she is the recognized source. The true source is always Scriptures; this we all realize. I am a little tired of books who quote this person and that person as "proof" for their measly arguments... Check your regular email address for the front and back cover designs of my book. I have no idea how they would get incorporated, let alone how the spine should like...
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Post by Allyn on May 24, 2010 10:14:25 GMT -5
With your permission, Ted, I would like to experiment with your book at Lulu. It looks like it would be a candidate for a soft cover book and that brings the cost way down. There is no obligation with Lulu and the book can be removed at any time. Allyn, Experiment away! I compared the size of my work to Don Preston's " The Elements Shall Melt with Fervent Heat" (if you have that book it will serve as a pretty accurate guide as to what the final outcome should more or less look like...). Although I do quote a few sources (ibids), I give the source within the main body of the book. I choose that method because 1) there are so few quotes and 2) I did not want to give any kind of impression that this was a " this person said this" and he or she is the recognized source. The true source is always Scriptures; this we all realize. I am a little tired of books who quote this person and that person as "proof" for their measly arguments... Check your regular email address for the front and back cover designs of my book. I have no idea how they would get incorporated, let alone how the spine should like... Ted, Thanks for sharing the cover with me. Its a great cover and back. Lulu has as one of its features the opportunity to add your own cover. Hopefully I will be able to work on it in the evenings this week. The laborious part will be to break each chapter out of the whole document you have sent me. Like I said, I will experiment with it.
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Post by mellontes on May 24, 2010 15:36:35 GMT -5
Ted, Thanks for sharing the cover with me. Its a great cover and back. Lulu has as one of its features the opportunity to add your own cover. Hopefully I will be able to work on it in the evenings this week. The laborious part will be to break each chapter out of the whole document you have sent me. Like I said, I will experiment with it. Allyn, don't spend too much time on this...I don't like being responsible for others loss of time...
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Post by Allyn on May 24, 2010 15:55:05 GMT -5
Ted, Thanks for sharing the cover with me. Its a great cover and back. Lulu has as one of its features the opportunity to add your own cover. Hopefully I will be able to work on it in the evenings this week. The laborious part will be to break each chapter out of the whole document you have sent me. Like I said, I will experiment with it. Allyn, don't spend too much time on this...I don't like being responsible for others loss of time... Why? Are you afraid you are going to receive a bill or something?
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Post by mellontes on May 24, 2010 16:05:42 GMT -5
Allyn, don't spend too much time on this...I don't like being responsible for others loss of time... Why? Are you afraid you are going to receive a bill or something? No. You would have been up front with me. It is just that you have made obvious (of late) regarding your time constraints. I don't want to be responsible for getting in the way of things much more important. That's all...
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Post by Allyn on May 24, 2010 19:50:42 GMT -5
Why? Are you afraid you are going to receive a bill or something? No. You would have been up front with me. It is just that you have made obvious (of late) regarding your time constraints. I don't want to be responsible for getting in the way of things much more important. That's all... Yes, I knew that and that is why I put a smile face at the end. It is a busy summer for me, no doubt, and now today I have been told the my man who is my supervisor over my work crew will be leaving me in a couple of weeks to move out of state. But I am still going to do what I can. Another thought I had is if you had considered offering your book in PDF.
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Post by Morris on May 25, 2010 11:31:01 GMT -5
Just a comment to say that I also enjoyed this book. It challenged some of the things that I had previously believed and confirmed other things (and a few things I don't agree with). Regardless, this is a good book with fantastic scriptural content.
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Post by mellontes on May 25, 2010 15:11:01 GMT -5
No. You would have been up front with me. It is just that you have made obvious (of late) regarding your time constraints. I don't want to be responsible for getting in the way of things much more important. That's all... Yes, I knew that and that is why I put a smile face at the end. It is a busy summer for me, no doubt, and now today I have been told the my man who is my supervisor over my work crew will be leaving me in a couple of weeks to move out of state. But I am still going to do what I can. Another thought I had is if you had considered offering your book in PDF. What advantages/disadvantages would there be to a PDF format?
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Post by Allyn on May 25, 2010 16:38:17 GMT -5
What advantages/disadvantages would there be to a PDF format? I sent you a PM
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Post by wandashort on Jun 17, 2010 15:04:23 GMT -5
Sheesh Ted I thought we were friends!! I would LOVE to read your book and would gladly pay 20bucks for it! I had no idea...email me! I am not on this forum as often as the others...
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Post by mellontes on Jun 17, 2010 16:09:29 GMT -5
Sheesh Ted I thought we were friends!! I would LOVE to read your book and would gladly pay 20bucks for it! I had no idea...email me! I am not on this forum as often as the others... Check your inbox at DeathIsDefeated.
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